Posts by Undaunted Danny

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The Watchtower's incredible ignorance about the human body.

by Norm in

babylonian teachings are always strongly condemned by the watchtower.

there is nothing considered so evil and abominable as whatever considered as babylonian.

it is therefore a remarkable fact that the watchtower society itself is guilty of teaching babylonian ideas.

Undaunted Danny

Provocative post Norm. Weird

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Faith, empathy, pain, and my life after the Watchtower (plus medical info)

by Dogpatch in

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a lot is said on this board about religion, mind control, fantasies and debunking things that are scientifically false, etc.

but one subject i don't remember seeing addressed is that of the positive value of faith and empathy for others, and its effect on "pain.

" of course, you can have empathy for others without religion, but for those who have "lost their religion," (such as many ex-witnesses) they often question the value of living by the ethics of the christian scriptures.

Undaunted Danny

Check out these links I don't have time.

Oxytocin the love(cuddle,nuture) hormone.

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If you had to change one thing you did while being a JW, what would it be?

by MelbaToast in

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i have seen so many stories here that invoke guilt and shame on innocents, what one important momyumental thing would you have changed if you had it to do over?.

mine would be not getting baptized.

Undaunted Danny

I would never had let them get to my money.

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G'Mo's Poll#1-Are xjws more likely to have been "devout" than current jws?

by Glenmore in

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my theory is that a lot of us were really into the culture.

in our hey day jill (my wife) and i had two keys to the kh.

she pioneered, i was an ms and aux pio'd.

Undaunted Danny

I was devout to the core.I memorized over 2,000 scripts from the NWT.

I was a good looking bro who stayed chaste until 46 y.o.

I had my weaknesses,[actually they were JW cult induced dysfunctions to begin with]

Know this! Apostate is defined in an ordinary dictionary:"as a devout believer turned destroyer"..

That is exactly what I am.The WT$ took everything,and now I have got nothing to lose.

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Faith, empathy, pain, and my life after the Watchtower (plus medical info)

by Dogpatch in

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friends

a lot is said on this board about religion, mind control, fantasies and debunking things that are scientifically false, etc.

but one subject i don't remember seeing addressed is that of the positive value of faith and empathy for others, and its effect on "pain.

" of course, you can have empathy for others without religion, but for those who have "lost their religion," (such as many ex-witnesses) they often question the value of living by the ethics of the christian scriptures.

Undaunted Danny

Good read Dogpatch.
The Message (MSG) 1 Corinthians 13 {aka the 'love chapter'}

1 If I speak with human eloquence and angelic ecstasy but don't love, I'm nothing but the creaking of a rusty gate.
2 If I speak God's Word with power, revealing all his mysteries and making everything plain as day, and if I have faith that says to a mountain, "Jump," and it jumps, but I don't love, I'm nothing.
3 If I give everything I own to the poor and even go to the stake to be burned as a martyr, but I don't love, I've gotten nowhere. So, no matter what I say, what I believe, and what I do, I'm bankrupt without love.

4 Love never gives up.
Love cares more for others than for self.
Love doesn't want what it doesn't have.
Love doesn't strut,
Doesn't have a swelled head,
5 Doesn't force itself on others,
Isn't always "me first,"
Doesn't fly off the handle,
Doesn't keep score of the sins of others,
6 Doesn't revel when others grovel,
Takes pleasure in the flowering of truth,
7 Puts up with anything,
Trusts God always,
Always looks for the best,
Never looks back,
But keeps going to the end.

8 Love never dies. Inspired speech will be over some day; praying in tongues will end; understanding will reach its limit. 9 We know only a portion of the truth, and what we say about God is always incomplete. 10 But when the Complete arrives, our incompletes will be canceled.
11 When I was an infant at my mother's breast, I gurgled and cooed like any infant. When I grew up, I left those infant ways for good.
12 We don't yet see things clearly. We're squinting in a fog, peering through a mist. But it won't be long before the weather clears and the sun shines bright! We'll see it all then, see it all as clearly as God sees us, knowing him directly just as he knows us!
13 But for right now, until that completeness, we have three things to do to lead us toward that consummation: Trust steadily in God, hope unswervingly, love extravagantly. And the best of the three is love."" I Love You Mug 2 { footnote from Danny: the 13th chapter of 1 Corn. is attributed to St.Paul and is a sublime masterpiece of eloquent expression.This is a bit of a paradox as Paul was a hardass }

LOVE BOMBING Bomb

HOW DO CULTS SEDUCE THEIR PREY ?

"" ......A tactic used most often is the "LOVE BOMBING"...They swarm over you in a sort of ,"COCOONMENT".

All of a sudden,,you have,,INSTANT FAMILY,,INSTANT PURPOSE,,INSTANT COMMUNITY,,INSTANT FRIENDS.....And you don't have to look inside yourself for answers anymore,,.. because cult leaders, or their designated high disciples,,dispense all your spiritual needs..

....A mass delusion,,mass hysteria,,operating under the illusion of a master plan...In military jargon this is known as ,"Cluster F**k"...

Beware of Love Bombing.... Leonard Brenner Love-bombing is characteristic of most cults. Prospects, recruits and members are drowned in a sea of love and caring. Recently in an evangelical church I heard the pastor describe his visit to two cultic groups in which he praised their love-bombing and urged that his church adopt the same loving attitude towards visitors and members.

Should the evangelical church practice love-bombing? Is this what Christ meant when he said, "By this will all men know that you are My disciples, if you have love for one another," (John 13:35)? I've heard cult members say, "Of course we practice love-bombing: Who'd want to be in a group or church that practiced hate-bombing?" This attitude highlights a common misconception. >>>Hate-bombing is not the opposite of love-bombing.<<< The opposite of love-bombing is unconditional love. Love-bombing is highly conditional. The cults will love you to death while you represent a prospective convert to their group.

As a member a tight family love will surround you as you faithfully promote their cause. However, when it is clear that a prospect will not join the group or a member voices doubts, create waves, or leaves the group, all love ceases. Indeed scorn is immediately heaped on these individuals and remaining members are told not to have any contact with them. All time, effort and love-bombing is then directed towards new prospects and the faithful members. Is this the love evangelical churches should practice? Unconditional love is what God practiced when he sent his Son to die for us..... I Love You Mug 2

What is Love?Danny sez: Altruism (alter-ism or alter-self) as opposed to egotism (ego-ism or ego-self)

noun: the quality of unselfish concern for the welfare of others

Quick definitions ( Altruism)

Encyclopedia article
Altruism is an unselfish interest in helping someone else. It is a motivation that emphasizes the welfare of others while minimizing or ignoring the individual's own welfare. The concept has a long history in philosophical and ethical thought, and has more recently become a topic for psychologists, sociologists, evolutionary biologists, and ethologists

Final Impressions,you and I can be honorable humanitarians all on are own,because it's the right thing to do.Undaunted Danny www.DannyHaszard.com

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"We miss you" experiences

by Nosferatu in

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i have a couple.

the elder that used to study with me came to my door one day.

he reminded me of all the wonderful times we had out in service (i really couldn't remember any).

Undaunted Danny

The last time a Witness of Jehovah had contact with me they slashed the tires on my Ford Bronco.

The time before last,he told me to "peel your colostomy bag off and suffocate yourself in it".

Undaunted Danny sez:"people usually imitate the god that they worship,don't they"?

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Illustration of burning cities while JW's rejoice?

by gaiagirl in

i remember once seeing an older watchtower publication, i believe it was a study book from the late '60s or early '70s, in which one illustration showed a city with large buildings in the background, all burning and in ruins.

in the foreground, a group of well-groomed jw's smile joyously and raise their arms in praise to jehovah, apparantly thanking him for destroying civilization, but at least allowing them to live.

the picture was a little unsettling at the time, and now with the threat of terrorism, even more so.. does anyone remember which publication this image was from?

Undaunted Danny

http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/2919/night.html Hot dog I found it!

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Mother Withdraws Permission for Transfusion After "Support" from JWs

by blondie in

http://www.examiner.ie/pport/web/opinion/full_story/did-sgbn3qtsldbicsg0aewfbadppk.asp

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irish examiner.com

Undaunted Danny

Thank you Blondie!We can always trust that you are on the ball.

Below is copy of my letter to the editor@ Irish Times

Court allows baby to have surgery
Irish Times (subscription), Ireland - 10 hours ago
The court was told that the baby's mother, a member of the Jehovah's Witnesses community, had withdrawn her consent to the use of blood and blood products in ...
'Doctors should make transfusion dilemma decisions' online.ie 2004 ... - Online.ie
High Court ruling on surgery for baby - RTE Interactive
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BOGUS BLOOD BAN

Jehovah's Witnesses adhere to an unscriptural position for Christians( kosher law) How risky is a Blood transfusion (low)? A comparison of transfusion risks to the risks of dying from other common causes: Serious disease or death from transfusion : 1 chance in 200,000 / year Death from electrocution: 1 chance in 200,000 / year Death from drowning: 1 chance in 35,000 / year Death from a car accident: 1 chance in 7,000 / year Death from pneumonia or influenza: 1 chance in 3,000 / year Death from cancer: 1 chance in 500 / year Death from stroke or heart disease: 1 chance in 300 / year Source: Canadian Hemophilia Society

Check out these links: http://www.ajwrb.org/ http://www.towertotruth.net/Articles/blood_transfusions.htm http://tlc.discovery.com/fansites/trauma/case/case_07.html [Discovery Channel Video] http://www.pennhealth.com/health_info/bloodless/blood_jchart.html The Watchtower's Bogus Blood ban.It is so twisted,( to obstruct lawsuits ).Selected, JW elders receive special,( esoteric ) indoctrination just to try to make sense of it.

Remember,always do that, 'regression analysis'.Just where the heck did it all come from ?

........Well,Watchtower Leader 'detox' Joe Rutherford,got a 'burr' on his butt,back in the 1940's about blood.They knew it was bogus back then.It's an overextension of the old testament kosher law,which DOESN'T apply to New Testament Christians..

They thought that the end of the world was a coming back then,(1940ish).Sooooooooo, there wouldn't be much of a body count causality.

Now with Blood on their hands,and the murder of thousands of innocent minor children,how can they account for the body count, if they repeal it outright now?

More importantly, to them,the WT$ would be sued,for mega-bucks,for all the wrongful death lawsuits.

So,as you can see before your very own eyes,they are eroding away gradually the dogma,eventually the day will come,when "new light" will "flash up" from Jehovah.and it will be dissolved. HELLO! What about all the dead kids!

By the way the chief symptom of my 28 year horror show with bleeding ulcerative colitis was, profuse bloody bowel movements on the order of 20-30 x's a day.It created enormous stress for me to know I could bleed to death at any moment. Yet,as a devout Jehovah's Witness I was indoctrinated to refuse a blood transfusion! <Click to enlarge my poster.